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Yes, Lucas heard that before the game, actually, but he didn't throw one as far as we can tell
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/player_cards/player_card.php?player=547973
there might be one but I'm...

http://www.youtube.com/user/BauerOutage?feature=watch

updated, still no distinction b'twn four- and two-seamers but fastballs are now sinkers and sliders are now cutters. Or riders (a la Max Marchi) and slutters (a la Me)...

card updating now

nitpicking is what these need ...
so just two 2008 games and otherwise looks ok....right?

I agree. The classifications got set that way a few years ago and I kept 'em that way. Once we see him this season I'll start going back and correcting it.

I know Dan has worked on it, it's somewhere deep in the pipeline for our player cards.

It's due in part to Samardzija's varying speed and pitch mix. Combined you get results like that. He generally runs the normal gap of about .5 to 1.5 mph on his fastball/sinker.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/cardinal-beat/wainwright-k-s-two-in-return-to-mound/article_a470eb16-69fb-11e1-9fbe-001a4bcf6878.html

LA Times has some funny stuff about his pitch mix
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0308-yu-darvish-20120308,0,7982573.story?page=2

because I updated it, silly.

Adam Foster tweeted with McCarthy a bit, this is interesting:

https://twitter.com/#!/AdamWFoster/status/168950013853052928

'tis a cutter, not a four-seamer.

Henry Rodriguez is close, but a wee bit slower and a wee bit less drop --- he doesn't quite hit the -40/85 mark.

Cutters, sliders, slutters .... grips and results .... starting a thread here hoping to pick-up some twitters who are talking about this ---- MadBum is on my 'fix' list, his cutter/slider over time...

the line can be blurred, and it can be tricky if the pitcher is throwing from a low arm slot (a curve thrown sidearm will look like a slider). But sliders are usually 7 mph or so off a fastball,...

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spike grip

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/player_cards/player_card.php?player=518886

I had it as a slider originally, or actually a mish-mash of SL and CU. At that speed, pushing the -40 inch drop says "top...

good question. The better question is has he thrown more than one ....

http://www.southsidesox.com/2012/2/3/2769933/another-look-at-matt-thorntons-unusually-hard-slider

without a close recheck ... which will happen now that you've noted the cutter tweet (thanks) ...
year Fastballs/Slider/Change/Curve%
2011 64/27/4/5
2010 70/19/3/8
2009 70/14/10/6
2008...

I want to find more before doing that, but I can send you the list if you're anxious to jump on it.

I have 29 changes tagged from June thru September of 2011

Here's another game in DC from 2010, you can see a group of 4 four-seamers
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photo caption even says first inning.

it's the 0-0 pitch to Ian Desmond in the first inning, me thinks. Off to mlbtv